I think this class is a good idea and could take off. If we learned anything in the last year or so, run what they do on a national level. If of course they have a Single set of rules. Just my opinion.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:55 pm
by Tice
Keep it simple, old car, new electronics, ribbed fronts, whatever in back.........and if you go way back I think Menors cars were........."Black"n checkers when I started.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:27 pm
by gguertin145
haha I just painted mine black and checkers
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:02 pm
by Menace
I learned 3 things about "black with checkers", hard to see on a dark dirt track, hard to see on an outdoor track at night, hard for other drivers and corner marshals to see. When i decided to go with a lighter color nobody else had any green on their cars, and that my friends is where "green with checkers" came from. First done in '96 on my Rc10-B2.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:19 pm
by pp69
Now we got back on track!!
Lipo for sure in my opinion unless you still have round cells that work.
I would also agree to brushless.
I could get used to a timeless paint job to bad the driver isn't timeless.
Almost forgot we are talking just 2wd buggies.
Do you have to stick with box stock chassis as you old timers know there was a lot of flat chassis hop-ups back in the day.
Look whos calling it old timers
Gary
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:21 pm
by Menace
As far as standard vintage rules go,
'94 or older chassis
27 turn brushed or 17.5 brushless
Lipo batts allowed
Open wheels and tires
This is pretty standard for vintage rules and I think would work well for us. I think we should run "blinky" mode in the newer speedos to keep things at "stock" speeds.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:29 pm
by Menace
"Do you have to stick with box stock chassis as you old timers know there was a lot of flat chassis hop-ups back in the day."
Messing with the cars is half the fun!
Just as long as the car is '94 or older I say have at 'er. Remember when I put a Losi 5-link on an RC10? Good times!
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:28 am
by gguertin145
I like it!
I agree tweak away!!!
To me the only rules that matter
-17.5 motor
-Blinky
-Lipo
-pre 94sih Chassis
After that if you need newer parts to make it work and you cant find them go for it, the more the merrier no one wants to turn away another racer over a stupid rule or make it expensive to get the old car running. A oil filled shock is an oil filled shock. If you have a chassis that fits the date range do what it takes to make it work!
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:34 pm
by RCRacing
WOW, the word VINTAGE would not be happy, using his name so loosely. This thread started so long ago, it's already vintage.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:37 pm
by gguertin145
RCRacing there is only so much you can do with a vintage chassis. I will not be doing this but I am using this as an example... If you have a gold pan chassis with a stealth transmission but you need a new slipper and shocks the shocks are cheap but you find the slipper is 40 bucks... why not put the new top shaft in and run the newer slipper? Do you think the new slipper will make you go around the track any faster.... When set properly that older slipper will slip too lol.
You will not see the customization that you are fearing in the cars, the key is if someone can get a car running with newer parts and join the class we need to allow that. It isn't easy or cheap to maintain a vintage car and as a club I think we want to see easy and cheap with a very large fun factor
The biggest difference you will notice between these older cars and the newer ones is the width of the chassis and the length of the a-arms... very similar to the evolution of 4 wheelers and other fun toys If we stick to the chassis the rest doesnt matter. Oil shocks are oil shocks and a slipper is a slipper if the chassis is the same then put it on the track
The fun factor for this class WILL be there. If you are interested in the class look for an old rc10 they are everywhere and we will have atleast 3 of them in this class if not 4 or 5 so it would be your best chance at a car with spare parts.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:29 pm
by silverbullit
Amazing how tracks have changed since then. I think 91' is the year I had purchest my first R/C CarAction magazine
is the xxx-cr vintage yet????
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:52 pm
by RCRacing
I agree, i am just amusing myself. I wish i had one of my old RC10's, i probably would race, my first car was a Kyosho Ultima, i am glad i don't have that anymore. I don't think i want to go find a car, but we will see how long i stay with 1/8 scale. But in my opinion, i think the class would be better with brushed motors and older esc's, i am in favor of lipos. Bottom line, i really don't care what the rules are. Props on finding the video, it was cool to watch, and hear some names you used to read in the magazines.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:44 pm
by WIITA
I know last year with the 17.5 open buggy class with the b4.1 it was almost impossible to get the motor over 120 and that was with 50 degrees of timing and even more turbo in the tekin. Is it possible to properly gear an old rc10 in blinky? Just wondering, not trying to start a fight
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:07 pm
by Menace
The Rc10 is very easy to gear for a 17.5. Much easier than a B4 or XXX.
Re: Proposed vintage class
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:01 am
by gguertin145
yea the tranny ratio is 2.25 instead of the 2.6 or something like that.
to run the identical ratio to my b4 last year with timing I could run a 24/87... Obviously without turbo I will go up a little but well within range