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Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:39 pm
by NickLavato
VTA is our biggest class. A few nights we had over 20 entries. Everyone already has the other stuff and it will cost ZERO to continue as we had in the past. Why make everyone buy something else?

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:00 pm
by Deleted User 3233
So far I have only seen 2 people that were opposed to the VTA change. What I see is new comers to the RC club already have 2s ESC's and battery packs to match, they can simply remove them from their off road vehicle and put them into a VTA chassis. I think this simplifies details for people and the options are greater for 2s parts vs 1s parts. Bottom line more people would have the budget to race by using electronic parts they already have.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:55 pm
by NickLavato
2s ESC's CANNOT be used if they arent on the USVTA approved list, Im going to venture a guess that 90% of the ESC's you guys are using outside are not on that list. Its not that simple of just pulling electronics and swapping. Every club member would need at least a new motor, and most will need APPROVED ESC's.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:56 pm
by NickLavato
Approved ESCs:
Novak-
Club Brushless ESC (#1852)
EDGE 2S Brushless ESC (#1850, 1851)
Mongoose Micro Brushless/Brush ESC (#1718)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive (#1749)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (#1748)
GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1708, 1709)
GTB series part numbers:1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers:1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712
XBR (DISCONTINUED) part number:1720

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
Reventon Stock Club Race part number:SP000048

HOBBYWING
JUSTOCK Club ESC (same esc, but differing part numbers)-
Falcon Sekido Part #
Hobbywing Justock Black: 81020001 (Black)
Hobbywing Justock blue 81020000 (Blue)

CRC Part #
7014 - Hobbywing XERUN Juststock Club No timing ESC - Sensored

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:31 pm
by Deleted User 3233
Hobbywing Justock Black: 81020001 (Black) $49.95 ebay

or

Hobbywing XERUN 120A 1S V3.1 ESC $186.90 ebay

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:58 pm
by NickLavato
Novak EDGE 2S Brushless ESC/Ballistic Boss VTA Brushless Motor System (25.5T)
[NOV3338]

MAP Price: $174.99

Sting Extreme 5000mAh 7.4V 2S 50C Lipo VTA Battery Pack: MAP price $54.99

So 20+ Spending $230+ makes more sense than 1-4 new guys buying 1s stuff? Cmon Shane that dont add up.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 4:21 pm
by BigRed
http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/

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Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:15 pm
by Menace
Please don't over complicate this just for the sake of winning an argument. We do not run a strict USVTA rules package at LSRCC just as most tracks don't. We use any 2s lipo,any speedo in blinky mode,Novak Ballistic 25.5,no driver figure required,no numbers required,1550 gram min wt. The same basic rules that are used everywhere but the state of MN.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:22 pm
by RCRacing
Like Greg said. I only have to buy 25.5 motors if we go that route. Alot cheaper than buying 17.5 motors and good 1s packs. We do need to do what is best for the majority of the club, not just a few.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:24 pm
by BigRed
Just learning the rules Menor. Chassis is here tomorrow [emoji6]

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Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:34 pm
by Menace
BigRed wrote:Just learning the rules Menor. Chassis is here tomorrow [emoji6]

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Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:36 pm
by BigRed
Menace wrote:
BigRed wrote:Just learning the rules Menor. Chassis is here tomorrow [emoji6]

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Ask me anything, just don't do it in a text till after the 26th if you don't have an iphone or I'll bust your lip!
I'll text you with more questions

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Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:16 pm
by Tice
I see it coming...........open VTA! OK so "if" we changed: USVTA Novak 25.5 (stormer priced $90+),
batteries VTA spec under 5000mah $39 - $50 not bad....but, any 2s = as much as you want to spend, but I'm sure that batteries don't make any difference in performance. And it shouldn't be to hard to find a speedo on the "approved" list. so if we switched besides the tires and other general rules (weight, ride height)we should follow at a minimum, motor, battery and speed control rules. And one final question, is anyone running a 25.5 this summer?

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:38 pm
by NickLavato
Menace wrote:Please don't over complicate this just for the sake of winning an argument. We do not run a strict USVTA rules package at LSRCC just as most tracks don't. We use any 2s lipo,any speedo in blinky mode,Novak Ballistic 25.5,no driver figure required,no numbers required,1550 gram min wt. The same basic rules that are used everywhere but the state of MN.
Don't get me wrong here, but you cant be serious. There are 20+ VTA's that require ZERO $$ to continue racing this year. If we don't run strict rules at Lsrcc why pull the trigger on the motor deal now? Run the 1s D3.5 for another season to burn them out and then readdress it later.

Re: VTA for this up coming season

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:40 pm
by NickLavato
RCRacing wrote:Like Greg said. I only have to buy 25.5 motors if we go that route. Alot cheaper than buying 17.5 motors and good 1s packs. We do need to do what is best for the majority of the club, not just a few.
There are 20+ Vta's that currently fit the rules locally. Find me more than that, that have 2s gear waiting and plan to race this class and I'll drop my argument right now. Period.