Mini Cooper Thread

[Menace]

We will be running kit tires only in Mini Cooper for the World of Wheels race.
Hopefully this will give some non LSRCC Mini racers more incentive to race their Minis at this event.

[BSchorr]

Side note... Its any selling their mini by chance? Wiita is coming to a race next weekend in Marshall, MN. WOuld be a perfect way to get it to me.

[gguertin145]

I have talked to the following people throughout the summer Menor, Billy, Jeff B, Randy, and Kevin... The overall consensus was that most would like a system that would be a little more equal for everyone as far as motors go. Right now we have guys that clean their motors every race or bring multiples to the track and then we have guys that don't touch them and over time get slower and slower... The following system is 60 dollars and would allow us to race a motor combo that NO ONE would have to maintain to stay fast and put this class back where it belongs as a drivers class!

http://www.hobbypartz.com/ezrun-35a-bru ... combo.html

I think this is a needed change that would bring an equal playing field to everyone and allow all racers including those that don't work on their cars (You know who you are) to be fast. Since this class is no longer looked at as a spec truck replacement we don't have to follow any set pricing rules and I think everyone can agree a $60 brushless system would be well worth it when you look at having to buy multiple motors and constantly clean them to be fast.

I will be racing at mmr all winter however I still want to make the weekend races in Duluth and this class is the PERFECT class for club night racing when their is no groove and the carpet is cold... I want to make sure this comes up now so people have MONTHS to prepare. Please post feedback or concerns so everyone is heard.

The speed of this system will make the coopers very close to the same speed as the black can coopers... Slightly faster then what we have now, probably faster then the VTA class in MN.

[silverbullit]

I like the idea

[Menace]

Brushless + Sweeps = Super Dialed!

Count me in.

[gguertin145]

so bullet is still our leader right

I may order one up and run some laps at Andrews for practice

[letrbuk]

The idea of less maintenance sounds great. But I was looking forward to just running what I have and not spending anymore money. Stuff like this is what kills classes.

[gguertin145]

Letrbuk I could have swore you and I talked about this and you said you liked the idea because it kept everyone the same speed. Nothing is final yet we need to talk with everyone but it seems the interest is high. We have two others from the cities talking about it too. When it comes to brushed you may be due for a motor anyway since you can't cut the com or replace brushes. I can understand not wanting to spend any more money on rc though... I think most would enjoy similar speeds though.

Does this meen you don't want brushless or your just concered?

[letrbuk]

If we did talk about it I dont remember. I just put a new motor in my car before world of wheels so my motors good. You said a couple of guys from the cities like the idea, is Andrew one of them after all it's his track and from what I've seen there are more then 2 guys that run mini Cooper down there. If this is what everyone decides that's fine go ahead and run it I'm just glad I have spec truck to run.

[RCRacing]

I will put the discussion here where it belongs. Like i said before, i no longer have a Cooper, so i do not care, but i see no reason to do it. I don't buy cost being the reason for the change, money does not appear to be an issue for the persons wanting this. I agree, brushed or brushless, Menor knows what he is doing, i have no dreams of beating him, he is better than me, period. I race to have fun, when the fun is gone, so is racing. Changing rules for no reason and making people buy upgrades that accomplish very little is not fun. If Spec Truck goes brushless, i won't race that either, i am not going to buy new motor and esc for that either. Looking like i will only be racing VTA on sundays.

[wild bill replogle]

I tell you what. I am in the same boat. I am done with this money game. Although I do vote for brushless in Cooper. Mainly for the reason that the brushed motors are not consistent and the life span is not that long. It will make everyone's cars the same speed and eliminate the guys that are in my opinioncheating by tweaking these motors. Same thing with 1/12 blinky. I will have no part of it. But that's for a different forum. Either way ill run Cooper the way the club desires. I would prefer brushless. Its a cheap system. But the way things are looking. You wont see me til spring. Racing for me is no longer fun.

[gguertin145]

Consistency! The fact is to be fast you couldn't run the same motor all year... ask bullet how that went. If you really don't care how fast you go then run the brushed with the brushless... Doesn't matter to me at that point if you aren't going to clean your motor every race you will be just as slow...

Billy sad to see you so down on racing but I cant say I disagree with you. The money game is the exact reason I would like to see a brushless system in these cars... I guess this is the exact scenario where there is no way we can please everyone in the club so I guess well have to make a decision at the meeting. To bad was hoping we could do this without the frustration that's why I talked to everyone ahead of time.

[letrbuk]

Greg I thought I read a post somewhere that you we're gonna be in Texas most of the winter. If this is true why are you pushing so hard to change a class when you won't be around? As far as the ez run system can the motor be taken apart for cleaning? If the answer is yes then people could put different bearings in it and probably do other mods to it. I think the silver can is about as spec'd as you can get. Yeah some guys are faster then others, I didn't have a problem with the speed of my car it was my poor driving. Greg you say your tired of the money game I find that hard to believe, the only person that might spend more then you at our club is Wiita. Billy I here where your coming from with the 1/12, by going blinky people think it will even the playing field it will only make it worse if I was running 1/12 I wouldn't spend $40 for axle bearings or being going through motors trying to find the best one but that's what it will take in that class. Wiita your pissed at Rcracing for his comments and you say big deal one driver doesn't mean anything statewide, maybe it doesn't but it does at our club when we don't have huge numbers to begin with. I think some people need to check there egos or maybe they dont care if the club survives.

[gguertin145]

I already have 6 silver can motors ready to go from the WOW.

Silver can isnt a bad option I just think the brushless system would make EVERYONES lives alot more simple. I think the racing will be better with the brushless motors. I am tired of feeling I have to spend money to go fast and cleaning a motor every run doesn't help, that is different then being willing to spend money on racing or new cars... This is a 60 dollar system and was something people talked about from the start but last year we wanted to keep it cheap. Unless you completely ignore the fact you are slowing down you should replace your silver can 2 times a year and this is assuming you take care of it... not long until this is the cheaper decision.

The change was made in rc racing to brushless for a reason I am not going to fight with people to make a change that they will benefit from anymore. You guys can discuss it at the club. It does appear that I am the only one that is arguing for this so I will stop.

As for me not being around it will be my choice... I likely could make the weekend races if I really wanted to but some of this crap has me burned out with racing. This is supposed to be fun...

[Menace]

I'm not going to argue for or against the possible change, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. Pick your poison kids, I'm burned out with the constant bickering. Remember, toy cars are supposed to be fun.